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Necessity is a mother ******

The search for knowledge is born out of necessity. Memorizing scales, chords, tunes and such is meaningless to anyone who cannot see a useful application in these elements of music. Here are a few "scenarios" and the "elements" that are more often than not required, due to the nature of the music.

Rock:
-Pentatonic scales
-Open, Barre, and powerchords, arpeggios for bass players
-Notes on the fingerboard (to a small degree)

Jazz:
-Extended chords
-Scales & Arpeggios, both traditional and altered
-Sight Reading
-Notes on the fingerboard (to a complete degree)
-Substitutions
-Styles (bebop, cool, afro-cuban, ragtime etc)

Classical:
-Sight Reading
-Complete knowledge of the fingerboard
-Styles (Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, 20th century)
-Major, Minor scales and arpeggios, and the minor variations.

If you find yourself wondering why you are not interested in Theory, maybe it simply would not better your life in any way.

But here is some food for thought:

Let's say you were a killer sight reader, that could read down a Hindemith tune, while falling out of an airplane. What sort of opportunities would open up? Every major city in the US, and most of the minor ones have Opera houses, theater companies, and Classical and Jazz Orchestras that are dying to PAY you to do this. In most cases, quite handsomely. You might be thinking, these opportunities never arise in your life, so why waste the time? Well, it doesn't work that way. You learn how to do it, then the jobs show up. You will never get the call, BEFORE you learn the skill. This, for those of you that just waded through this wall of text, was the heart of my point.
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Re: Necessity is a mother ******

5/10/2010 2:57 PM

Barney Brazitis (17673) wrote:

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Re: Necessity is a mother ******

5/13/2010 6:26 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Adam,

I basically agree with all you said, except that
you seem to have broken the necessary knowledge
into categories.

I happen to think that a really good musician has
most, of not all of these qualities. A "decent"
rock player, for instance, might be able to get by
with Pentatonic scales, Open, Barre, and
powerchords, arpeggios for bass players, and notes
on the fingerboard, (to a small degree) but what
about the player who wants, or is called upon, to
play more than just rock?

To my way of thinking, a really good player is
stylistically diverse, and this requires a
knowledge of music in general, from rock to blues
to funk, and also earlier forms like cha chas,
swing, "classical," and everything in-between.

I know you were not really saying that in order to
play "this" style, you only need to know "this,"
but I so often encounter players who proudly
proclaim that they are blues players, or rock
players, or whatever players, and when I do, I
know that they have limited themselves to
something similar to what you have listed. I know
that were I to hire them to play a gig, they'd be
pretty good in their chosen genre, but once the
music got too far outside that genre, they'd be
lost.

And even excellent reading doesn't help this. Did
you ever listen to an average symphony orchestra
trying to play swing? Oh, sure, some can, mostly
because the conductor can feel it, and has pounded
it into their heads, but you can't really write
swing on a page; in most cases the players have to
be able to feel it to play it. So most symphony
orchestras really suck at it.

I will fully admit that I may have missed your
point. Are you saying that reading is the most
important skill to learn?

Kelly

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Re: Necessity is a mother ******

5/13/2010 10:11 AM

Adam Furay (1713) wrote:

thank you for your post!
-The above list is simply the bare minimum requirements to pass yourself off as a musician in each genre. On second thought, considering the current state of what is passable as music, the requirements may be far less.
-I do not believe that reading is the most important skill, but a high level in skill can reall set you apart from your contemporaries and get you jobs! Listening is the most important skill, without a close second. I would love to see a counter argument that could hold even an ounce of water.

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Re: Necessity is a mother ******

5/24/2010 2:34 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Adam,

Well, it seems we agree. I would however, and to
admittedly pick a nit, say that listening is perhaps
less important than hearing :)

But, of course, in order to learn to hear, one must
first learn how to listen.

Kelly

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