Perfect intervals retain the same quality.
i.e. a Perfect 5th (D above G) would become a Perfect 4th (D below G)

Yeah, but throw in a joint and all hell breaks
loose!

So a Minor 7 would become a Major 2 ?

G up to F > > > > > > > > G down to F

aye

Or better yet a minor 7 becomes a Major 6th cool on the bass fret board 4 frets down from a Maj 6 is a min 7th or relative minor

The topic here was / is INTERVAL INVERSIONS.

When necessary, I refer to the chart below.

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Semitones Interval
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0 ... Unison
1 ... flat 2nd
2 ... 2nd
3 ... minor 3rd
4 ... major 3rd
5 ... perfect 4th
6 ... flat 5th (diminished 5th or augmented 4th)
7 ... perfect 5th
8 ... minor 6th (or sharp 5th/augmented 5th)
9 ... major 6th
10 .. minor 7th (flat 7th)
11 .. major 7th
12 .. octave
13 .. flat 9th
14 .. 9th
15 .. sharp 9th/minor 10th (just minor 3rd one octave higher)
16 .. major 10th (just major 3rd one octave higher)
17 .. 11th
18 .. augmented 11th
19 .. perfect 12th (octave above perfect 5th)
20 .. flat 13th
21 .. 13th

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1 ... flat 2nd
11 .. major 7th

2 ... 2nd
10 .. minor 7th (flat 7th)

3 ... minor 3rd
9 ... major 6th

4 ... major 3rd
8 ... minor 6th (or sharp 5th/augmented 5th)

5 ... perfect 4th
7 ... perfect 5th

6 ... flat 5th (diminished 5th or augmented 4th)
6 ... augm 4th (augmented 4th or diminished 5th)
... and the cheese stands alone with the tritone!

.....
Or better yet a minor 7 becomes a Major 6th ... What ?

Eminor7 = 1,b3,5,b7 = E,G,B,D
G Maj 6 = 1,3,5,6 = G,B,D,E

I think this is what you meant ... a chord inversion :)
.....

4 frets down from a Maj 6 is a min 7th or relative minor ... What ?


... again, using my 'homeschooled' chart above,
this is what I came up with.

9 ... major 6th
(9 minus 4)
5 ... perfect 4th

I don't see how this links to a [ a min 7th ]

... or relative minor ... What ?


G Maj 6 = 1,3,5,6 = G,B,D,E

G Maj 6

4 FRETS DOWN

4 frets down I have Eb,G,Bb,C



How is that a 'RELATIVE minor' ?

G Major scale

E(natural minor)

I go 3 frets down and play:
E,F#,G,A,B,C,D = E Aeolian

Help me understand ... and welcome back.

Hi wayne, How you doing? Good to see your still posting. Count down 4 frets from the G on the G maj chord and you get a E of the Emin chord.
All the notes are the same between both minor and major.

GMaj6

Emin7

1. The topic here was / is INTERVAL INVERSIONS,
NOT CHORD INVERSIONS :)

2. 4 frets down from a "G" is an "Eb",
NOT AN "E" :)

3. An Emin7 = E,G,B,D ..., HAS NO "A" :)

EMin7

LOL my bad Wayne that was a typo Emin7= egbd

when your going 4 frets down you are forming another Major chord and you should be forming a minor chord thats where you are getting confused.

I think where he's getting confused is because you remarked on a discussion about changing by 2 frets not 4.

Or better yet a minor 7 becomes a Major 6th ... What ?

Eminor7 = 1,b3,5,b7 = E,G,B,D
G Maj 6 = 1,3,5,6 = G,B,D,E

I think this is neither BETTER, NOR BETTER YET :)


4 frets down from a Maj 6 ... ????

(G Maj 6) Nowhere does he specify
that the "FRETS DOWN" movement
applies only to the ROOT note.

So when I did what was said,
(Moving each note down 4 frets)
4 frets down I have Eb,G,Bb,C
(Eb Maj 6) or (Cmin7 [C,Eb,G,Bb] )

G MAJ 6

If I were to demonstrate the relation,
I would first show the student THIS:

E Min 7

... Then I would show THIS:

EMin7

Explaining that the new ROOT note
(E) has moved down 3 FRETS, and to
that we've added:
a. A minor 3rd (G)
b. A 5th (B)
c. A minor 7th (D)

Thanks David

Wayne

Dunno what I did, but your welcome ;)

Thank you Wayne (et al) for trying to explain Theory to me (us?) at a level we can access.