James,

It seems to me you are over-complicating it. When
you want to play the root on one string, and the
fifth is on the next higher string, it is three
frets up, and over to the higher string. When you
want to play the root on one string, and the
fifth on a lower string, the fifth is on the same
fret on that lower string.

I have always found it more useful to think in
patterns and intervals, rather than in notes and
keys. When you think in notes and keys, you have
to think about sharps, flats, and transposing.
When you think in patterns and intervals, all you
have to do is move your hand.

Kelly

Hi Kelly;


"three frets up" ? *
to the higher string

"the same fret on that lower string"
on that lower string

* I would have said 2 frets up,
is that what you meant?

Thanks Wayne

Wayne,

You're probably right; I was counting the first one.
:)


Kelly

First of all, I want to thank all of you for your
time. I did the audition, and was asked back for a practice this coming Sat. We played "Good Hearted Woman" and here's what I played.

Starting with the D note on the A string, 5th fret,
bouncing to the A note on the E string, 5th fret.

D-A-D-A-D-A and so on.

Next, G note,E string, 3rd fret, again bouncing to the D note, on the A string, 5th fret.

G-D-G-D-G-D and so on

Then, A note, E string, 5th fret, bouncing to the
E note, A string, 7th fret.

A-E-A-E-A-E and so on!

Did I just get everyone confused or what? I can play it much easier than write it! lol
Anyway, Thanks Again, SBJ

That sounds like a "You're In"!!!! Congrats!!

Yo James,
I Love it, when a plan comes together!!! Sniff, sniff!!! :^D
Black Hawk

Good stuff SBJ. Looks like you cracked it!

D Silbag!

THANKS! I couldn't have done it without AB members.
I've been to other music chat rooms and they just don't compare to the Good Folks here!
Thanks Again, and GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!!!

SBJ

lot of good advise. But remember to keep it simple. As long as you are playing a chordal note in that chord your ok no one will hear the difference. Most importantly is to make hills and valleys when selecting chordal notes. What I am saying is jump to the closest note in that chord your playing, if you jump too high or too low it will sound corny. When I am refereing to hills and valleys I am talking about how it looks on standard notation on a score. Dont be too concerned with thr root and fifth. Just play the closest note in that chord. There are so many variations. so I hope this helps. Here is something I found on the net. Have fun. If you need a good bassline look me up and send me a PM I would be happy to make a great one for you.

Dan

D D7 G
A long time forgotten are dreams that just fell by the way
A7 D
The good life he promised ain't what she's living today
D D7 G
But she never complains of the bad times or bad things he's done, Lord
A7 D
She just talks about the good times they've had and all the good times to
come

CHORUS:
D D7 G
She's a good-hearted woman in love with a good-timin' man
A7 D
She loves him in spite of his ways that she don't understand
D D7 G
Through teardrops and laughter, they'll pass through this world hand-in-hand,
A7 D
A good-hearted woman loving her good timing man

He like the night life, the bright lights and good-timin' friends
When the party's all over she'll welcome him back home again
Lord knows she don't understand him, but she does the best that she can
'Cause she's a good-hearted woman; she loves her good timin' man

CHORUS

[optional: CHORUS up one key, to end]

Wassssup Dan?

Hi Barney hows it going? good to see your still posting. I Always learn something from u. I am still studying orchesration wow i have my hands full lol

That's great to hear! I'm doing some orchestral scoring recently myself. Did an arrangement for orchestra and gospel rhythm section (so imagine full orchestra, and piano, B-3 organ, electric guitar, full drum kit and 70 voice choir. Crazy!)

Writing a bunch of stuff to sweeten music, whether it be horn section or string quartet....

Keep up the good work. It's good to read you again.

Ralph has me only working with 5 instruments a small jazz assemble we have a long way to go to reach his level of orchestration of a full orchestra lol

Barney, would you give me some advise on your experience and are you using Finale?

Dan

Yes Dan.

I have been doing horn parts since high school in various small combos. When I came to Seattle I attended the Cornish College of the Arts. There I got to try some stuff for various ensembles, the most challenging being the Jazz Orchestra. (Brass, woodwind of various types, strings and rhythm section). I was also mentored as a music copyist. The high point was composing a Jazz Symphony for Orchestra and Cedar Walton. He used Cornish players for his combo (including me!).

Since then I've been arranging for a large church up here where I am now employed. So I get to face all kinds of challenges now. I love having things to wake up to...

We have been using Finale 2010 which includes sampled instruments. It's a very vast and robust program of which I've only scratched the surface as far as all it's capabilities. My strength is getting the notes in and manipulating the parts. Any thing I know I will gladly share.

So....any specific Q's?

Thanks Barney,
I am fortunate to have Ralph say yes to teaching me how to otchestrate. He does not offer that to just anyone. He has not done that in a long time. i think he mentioned one of the last people he tutored was doc Severnsson from the tonite show. He said I have the potential and drive to really want it. I have completed about 15 half decent big band arrangements but needs more heart and swing. He mentioned I am missing syncopation in alot of my scores. We are using Finale 2010 and he got a free version for endorsing them.

http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/post/2009/12/14/Finale-User-Spotlight-Ralph-Grasso.aspx

Check it out its a good article he wrote for them.

Dan

If you'd like to listen to some stuff for syncopation ideas look up Ray Barretto, albums "RicanStruction", "Giant Force" and "Indestructible" all have some tight arrangements to listen to and great ideas. Takes awhile to get used to the groove tho, it's Salsa music. Another great band to listen to for syncopation is Irakere, a Cuban fusion group. This is the band that Paquito D'Rivera and Arturo Dandoval came out of.

Thanks Barney for the tip. I love salsa and latin styles of music. I have a good friend who is a conga player and he does alot of salsa. sounds almost like jazz. Ill look him up for my
syncopation ideas.

Dan

Please don't deny yourself listening to some great late 70's early 80's Salsa. There were some fantastic arrangements being done then. Your conga friend will point you in the right direction..you go, buoy!

Thanks for the tips. I will do that. Ralph did not write that much salsa but I am sure Trinity the conga player xan help me with that.
Take care,

Dan

My parting shot....listen to a lot of different stuff so that your ear remains supple and flexible and always full of fresh ideas....