Not sure I understand, but the 5th will be one
string higher (in key) and two frets to the right
(low G root to D/5th - C root to G/5th) Also, that
same 5th can be found directly underneath your root
(an inverted 5th). If you have a 5 string, then
that same G root will have a D/5th directly beneath
it on that low B string. On a regular 4 string, you
don't have that low D option. Your low C will have
the low G as it's inverted 5th. Hope this helps.

It will the D, 5th fret, although there are other ways to do it. Either
way you want to go (up a 5th, or down to the inverted 5th,) you'll
want the D. Think of the first five notes of the scale: G-A-B-C-D;
D is number five.

So the 3rd is B?
Thanks for your help, I think I have it now. It's
slowly coming back to me. Must be the Anhizer kicking in again! See I can't remember how to spell it! lol Thanks again, SBJ

Now you have it.

Two frets to the right on the string below the one you are playing is the fifth.

One fret to the left on the string below the one you are playing is the third.

If you are playing G the third is B and the fifth is D.

D Silbag!

BY JOVE! I Think I've Got It!!!
Thanks guys! If it wasn't for AB'rs, I'd be 2 1/2 yrs. behind where I'm at now!!! Really!!!
Thanks Again, Peace, SBJ

I always take a fifth wherever I go...

G root & 5th

G octave & 4th down

this too :)

also

At about the 20 second mark, you'll
hear the higher then lower note thing

Wayne is "G octave & 4th down" correct or is it 5th instead of 4th?

Wayne is "G octave & 4th down" correct or is it 5th instead of 4th?


G,A,B,C,D,E,F,(G)
1.2.3.4.5.6.7.(8)


From a G UP to a D is a 5th
From a D UP to a G is a 4th


From a G DOWN to a D is a 4th
From a D DOWN to a G is a 5th




If from "X" to "Y" to "X" to "Y" etc. etc.
were BOTH 5th's, we'd NEVER have the
CIRCLE
of 5th's



G,F#,F,E,D#,D,C#,C,B,A#,A,G#
12 chromatics descending;

Cycle of 4th's:( descending)
G,D,A,E,B,F#,C#,G#,D#,A#,F,C

CIRCLE of 5th's(ascending)
G,D,A,E,B,F#,C#,G#,D#,A#,F,C

That's my story ... and I'm
sticking with it!

I thought that, in G, D is the 5th. & it doesn't matter whether it's below or above.

D up to A

D,E,F,G,A,B,C,(D)

G up to D

G,A,B,C,D,E,F,(G)

A up to D 4th

A,B,C,D,E,F,G,(A)

D up to G 4th

D,E,F,G,A,B,C,(D)



....................................


Let us say the Post Office
is 2 blocks from your home.

It depends on focusing on the
starting point!


FROM YOUR HOME the Post Office
is 2 blocks NORTH.


FROM THE POST OFFICE your home
is two blocks SOUTH.

I realize you are not yet
fluent in "Wayne speak" ...
but don't give up.

?!?

So you're saying D is only the 5th of the scale of G when it's above the 'root' G & it is not the 5th when the D is lower in pitch than the 'root' G?

Though I'm not yet fluent in "Wayne", I think I'll understand "Yes" or "No".

a perfect 5th is an interval that is 7 half steps either up or down from a note. The 5th degree of a scale is a 5th above the root, and a 4th below.

Thanks Wayne & Adam.

I'm confused about this on a Theory front but, aurally & with a G sounded, I like the sound of a D below G better than a C below G. The deeper D seems more melodious than the deeper C.

If it was some sort of "C" chord being sounded, the C would sound "better".

LOL! I'm not quite THAT bad ;)

I'm a bit perplexed at what I thought I understood. I thought in the key of G major, a G chord was G & B & D. No matter if you had notes above or below the main G.

Yes.
You can hear that those inversions
sound pretty much the same.

A [D & G & B] (D bass)Triad is still
a "G" chord

Thanks!

G to A = 2 or 7
G to B = 3 or 6
G to C = 4 or 5
G to D = 5 or 4
G to E = 6 or 3
G to F = 7 or 2
G to G = 8 or 1

Does this help?

Gotcha. (Though isn't the F an F# for G major scale?)

What utility or function does the dual numbering offer?

Q1. Yes.

Q2. It offers the ability to
identify interval notes properly.

Cool!

So a deeper 5th has an interval of a 4th. & a deeper 6th has an interval of a 3rd?

I know you get "it" but ...

The name of the note an octave below the 5th is the same note name as the 5th.
With regard to G Major, this note name would be "D".
Above it's a 5th, below it's 4th.


The interval name of a 5th above or below is called a 5th!
With regard to G Major, above, this note name would be "D",
below, this note name would be "C",


The counterparts will always add to 9.

Above the "ROOT G" an E is a 6th.

Below the "ROOT G" an E is a 3rd.

'So a deeper 5th ( or a 5th below) = "C" '
'an interval of a 4th below = "D" '

I believe you are using the term "5th" to both:
1/ indicate where a note lies on a scale and
2/ describe an interval between 2 notes.

In the first instance (still in G major) a D above & a D below are both the 5th (note in the scale).

In the second instance, the higher D is a 5th (interval above the G) and the lower D is a 4th (interval below the G).

Scale degree

vs.

Interval

?

" 1/ indicate where a note lies on a scale and "


I'm afraid we're going to need a ruling !

This discussion reminds me of playing the "hear the interval" training game with varying keys in the AB resources section. You hear it, click "5th", and it tells you "wrong - it's a 4th"...

http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory12.htm

.....
It is important to realise that when we calculate intervals we fix the lower note and vary the upper note.

The rules for naming intervals are given below.

intervals are named from note to note, in the key of the lower note, and from the lower note.



For example, intervals from C to G double flat, G flat, G, G sharp or G double sharp are all fifths because C to G is a fifth. They are, in order: doubly diminished fifth, diminished fifth, perfect fifth, augmented fifth, doubly augmented fifth. If the G double sharp is written as an A (its enharmonic equivalent) the interval is now a sixth - because the interval C to A is a sixth; in fact it is a major sixth.

Diatonic intervals are all those whose notes can both be found in at least one major or harmonic minor scale (example: F and B are both found in C major); all other intervals are chromatic (for example F and B#, since no major or harmonic minor scale whose key note is C includes both of them).

Good points, but perhaps more applicable to a different topic.

Like bubble blowing, maybe ? LOL