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Polyrhythmic awesomeness



Thinking in terms of polyrhythms can allow you to create some really entrancing stuff. This simple lesson will include an example and explanation of a simple 3 note progression that repeats every beat and accents will be made every 4 frets. You would never believe it until you tried, but playing every note quietly and accenting every 4 notes while looping a 3 note progression adds a real trippy effect and much more expression to something so simple. I will late alter this slightly to show how this can be manipulated.


Lesson 23976

Enjoy!
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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/11/2010 11:34 AM

Joe Farrar (41) wrote:

what?

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1/11/2010 1:20 PM

Adam Furay (1713) wrote:

that's not a polyrhythm :( those are accents. Polyrhythm's are duple and triple subdivisions sounding simultaneously with the same "beat". i.e triplets and 8th notes rhythms performed with the same "beat" or @ the same tempo.

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1/11/2010 2:23 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

When in doubt, I WIKIPEDIA lol
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Polyrhythm is the simultaneous sounding of two or more independent rhythms. Polyrhythms can be distinguished from irrational rhythms, which can occur within the context of a single part; polyrhythms require at least two rhythms to be played concurrently, one of which is typically an irrational rhythm.

A simple example of a polyrhythm is 3 evenly-spaced notes against 2, with the 3-beat pattern being faster than the 2-beat pattern, so that they both take the same amount of time. Other simple polyrhythms are 5-2, 5-4, etc.

Another form of polyrhythm would be phrasing to suggest a different meter than the one being played by the rest of the ensemble. A common example of this in jazz would be phrasing quarter notes in groupings of 3 to suggest 3/4 time while the ensemble plays in 4/4. Compare with hemiola (not a polyrhythm).



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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/11/2010 3:32 PM

Geoffrey Barnes (6445) wrote:

Here is an old AB discussion from 2008

http://www.activebass.com/m839005--Polyrhyths-And-
Odd-Meter

Geoff :-)



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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/12/2010 12:57 PM

Adam Furay (1713) wrote:

I knew it! paTROLLin' this post felt way too familiar....

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1/11/2010 3:54 PM

Barney Brazitis (17673) wrote:

Poly rhythm is usually referring to playing different meters simultaneously. Like 3 over 4, or 7 over 5 etc.. Playing with accents within a certain meter is manipulating weak beats and strong beats.



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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/13/2010 12:59 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Like Bruford's "5G," with Jeff Berlin. I must admit,
I might better understand the point of this lesson
if it had audio.

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1/12/2010 1:18 PM

Adam Furay (1713) wrote:

#24515

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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/12/2010 2:33 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

So we have six notes (bass) per measure

OVER

four hi-hat taps per measure


Would that be 6/4
over
4/4 ?

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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/13/2010 12:09 AM

Geoffrey Barnes (6445) wrote:

#24517: 3/4 On 4/4

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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/13/2010 2:27 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

(from your lesson)#24517: 3/4 On 4/4
So the ascending bass notes were
the "3", played over the 'busy'
drum beat that was the "4"?

(from ADAM'S lesson)
So the "6" notes I presumed were
6/4 were eigth notes?

What then, is "6/4"?

What is "6/8"?
Thanks Wayne

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Re: Polyrhythmic awesomeness

1/16/2010 12:19 PM

Geoffrey Barnes (6445) wrote:

6/8 and 6/4 are time signatures. a polyrythym is the use two time signatures with different note lengths attached to each different instrument. The 3/4 part in my lesson example is 3 notes of 1.333 quarters in length over the drum rythym playing 4 quarter notes in length with different accenting.