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Do you know your intervals?

Okay, this is not intended for you advanced
players out there, but is rather for the newer
players. Although, you advanced players may
certainly chime in.

I played for many years before anyone even
mentioned intervals to me. I had a good ear, but I
still didn't have the real tools I needed, as in
"Okay, that's a fourth, so from here, I need to
put my finger here..."

Once someone mentioned intervals, and showed them
to me, suddenly an entirely new world opened up
for me.

Don't be embarrassed if you don't know about
intervals; I started playing when I was three,
took many private and public lessons, and knew how
to play many instruments by the time I got
to college. However, it wasn't until I got into a
college theory class that anyone ever even
mentioned intervals to me. And this, more than
anything else, opened whole new horizons to me. It
was at this point I crossed over from being a mere
biological playback machine to being a
real musician.

The knowledge of intervals is how teachers can
listen to certain riffs, figure out how to play
them, and then teach them to you. The thing is,
learn intervals yourself, and you will be able to
figure out licks without paying someone to teach
them to you.

Learning intervals is one of the easier things I
have ever encountered, has been one of the most
useful things I have ever encountered, and has
been the closest thing to "the secret of music" I
have ever encountered.

Has your teacher discussed intervals with you, and
have you learned them? I mean, really well?

Kelly
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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/21/2009 4:24 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

I should add that my college theory professor
advocated the use of familiar tunes in recognizing
and remembering intervals. My familiar tunes are
probably mostly different than yours, but most
everyone knows the Wedding March. You know the
one. "Here comes the bride..." That's
"1,4,4,4..."

That's a very good way to get them drilled into
your head.

Anyone have some more recent ones to list as
examples that are more recent than the Imperial
margarine commercials of the seventies, which were
a good example of fifths? :)

Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/22/2009 10:55 AM

Barney Brazitis (17673) wrote:

Yes, that's how I learned intervals, through melody associations..





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/22/2009 2:08 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

"melody associations"

I think she was the morning
weather gal at KBAC News.





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/23/2009 12:01 PM

Barney Brazitis (17673) wrote:

Melody, Inc.



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/22/2009 3:07 PM

Adam Copelin (12723) wrote:

"Jaws" theme for minor 2nds, "Star Wars" for perfect
5th, "Maria" or "The Simpsons" for diminished 5th,
"NBC" for major 6th. That's all I can remember at
the moment...the remainder I've just memorized more
or less.



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/23/2009 11:30 AM

Barney Brazitis (17673) wrote:

That's what AH'm talkin' 'bout...

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/26/2009 3:28 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Great comments, folks. And to you newer players
out there, there is absolutely no way I can
overemphasize how important intervals can be to
your development as a bass player, or indeed as a
musician in general.

Ever see a band that got a request for a song they
had never played before? And, the singer happened
know all the words, or at least most of them, and
they decided to give it a shot? And they rocked?

This sort of thing happens all the time with
players who know their intervals, and knowing
intervals is a huge part of the "ear training"
thing you've heard about, but may have dismissed
as some kind of voodoo. "Only the real pros can do
that..."

If you have any aptitude for music at all, you can
learn to do the same, often better than the "rock
gods" out there. I could tell you stories... But I
won't.

Learn intervals, and you will be giving your ears
some of the best training they can get.

Kelly

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

4/3/2010 10:13 PM

Dan Gable (699) wrote:

Kelly,
Excellent post. You are right on. A good musicican thinks in intervals. Thanks for the great post.

Dan

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

4/9/2010 7:13 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Hi, Dan, thanks for bumping this, and I mean that
sincerely. I think this is at the same time one of
the most important and one of the most ignored
aspects of
music.

I would love to see what people who missed the
original post have to say.

Kelly

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4/10/2010 2:28 AM

Dan Gable (699) wrote:

Your welcome kelly. It just seems easier to think in intervals. again thanks for a good post and lesson

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10/4/2010 7:23 AM

Dan Gable (7926) wrote:

Kelly,
I also forgot to mention that understanding intervals gives a musician a better hands on approach to improv and why certain chords fit over other chords good example would be the relative minor of a maj6th is a min7th or a 9th is the same note as the 2nd, or a 13th is the same as a 6th, or when using a small seventh you can also add a 6th, 9th,13th but not a major 7th. etc. again thanks for a great post.

Dan

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/18/2010 5:15 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Yeah, Dan, you're right. :)

Kelly

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10/18/2010 7:06 AM

Greg Rhodus (7348) wrote:

after 40 years of playing.......this all sounds like Chinese to me...

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10/18/2010 11:19 AM

Ken Richardson (1322) wrote:

most people have figured out tunes and applied the use of intervals without really getting too caught up in the theory - most bassists would expect a blues in G to also use C and D chords... if you were to play in A then they would move up the neck and use A, D and E patterns.

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10/18/2010 2:20 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

relative minor of a maj6th C E G A
is a min7th A C E G

C Maj 6th





C Maj sixth also





A Min 7th





Wasn't sure if you were kidding
about the confusion ... but if
you were, I think this will help.



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/19/2010 10:39 AM

Greg Rhodus (7348) wrote:

thanks Wayne...but i was meaning the whole subject matter was confusing...my theory knowledge is extremely limited. even the major6th and minor7th was foreign to me. i just play what i hear in my head.



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/19/2010 1:09 PM

Ken Richardson (1322) wrote:

If you want to learn a bit of theory without getting in too deep, Wheats Bass Book covers it pretty well.



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10/19/2010 2:11 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

:"even the major6th and minor7th was foreign to me.":


Was ...! :)

Quick ! ... What is the [rel Maj6th]
of D Minor 7th ?

Calculators are permitted, but show
your work for extra credit purposes!






















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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/19/2010 4:05 PM

Greg Rhodus (7348) wrote:

ok so now i know their names now....but i still dont know who they are and what they do?





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10/20/2010 2:49 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

1 & 2





1 & 3





1 & 4





1 & 5





1 & 6





1 & 7




The above 7 pairs are taken
from the "Major" scale:

C Major




In addition to those (7),
there are the minor 3rd
1 & b3








Sharp 4th, Flat 5th
middle of root to octave





Minor 7th
1 & b7





... and lastly the minor 2nd,
but he's been naughty and is
in a "time out"
1 & b2






When we combine 3 (TRIADS)
of these, such as the 1,3,5
C Major Triad

or, such as the 1,b3,5
C Minor Triad






____________________________________

I want you to know, that I know
I have not yet answered your questions:

1. " who they are "
2. " what they do "

But you've waited forty years for this
... forty more days shoudn't matter! LOL





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/23/2010 9:21 AM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

In addition to those (7),
(should have been (6), my bad.

Aug 5th?






Or ...


Minor 6th






math was always my goodest
subject,... even through all
5 years of high school !



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

11/12/2010 6:25 PM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Greg,

If you play what you hear in your head, and do it
well, chances are you already know intervals, just
not their names.

While knowing the names is not an absolute
requirement to being able to play well, it is very
helpful in being able to communicate with other
musicians. For example, a guitar player asks "Hey,
what was that chord at the beginning of the
bridge?" If you know the names of the intervals,
you can say "Oh, that is a 6m" or whatever.

Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

11/12/2010 9:09 PM

Gerry Bacon (3594) wrote:

Kelly, not that this has anything at all to do with
intervals, but I've still got that book here to send
to you, but no address.

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/19/2010 4:27 PM

Leroy Sams (4749) wrote:

Yo Greg,

I'm with you on this one... I thought they were talking about a new group... Wow!

Leroy

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

10/20/2010 2:51 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

You may join the class, I don't
know if I can do it in "English"
but I'll try. LOL

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10/20/2010 4:21 PM

Leroy Sams (4749) wrote:

Yo Wayne,

Many a teacher has given up on me LOL

Leroy

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10/22/2010 2:05 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

Giving up is EASY.
As long as you don't
quit, you learn!

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