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Do you know your intervals?

Okay, this is not intended for you advanced
players out there, but is rather for the newer
players. Although, you advanced players may
certainly chime in.

I played for many years before anyone even
mentioned intervals to me. I had a good ear, but I
still didn't have the real tools I needed, as in
"Okay, that's a fourth, so from here, I need to
put my finger here..."

Once someone mentioned intervals, and showed them
to me, suddenly an entirely new world opened up
for me.

Don't be embarrassed if you don't know about
intervals; I started playing when I was three,
took many private and public lessons, and knew how
to play many instruments by the time I got
to college. However, it wasn't until I got into a
college theory class that anyone ever even
mentioned intervals to me. And this, more than
anything else, opened whole new horizons to me. It
was at this point I crossed over from being a mere
biological playback machine to being a
real musician.

The knowledge of intervals is how teachers can
listen to certain riffs, figure out how to play
them, and then teach them to you. The thing is,
learn intervals yourself, and you will be able to
figure out licks without paying someone to teach
them to you.

Learning intervals is one of the easier things I
have ever encountered, has been one of the most
useful things I have ever encountered, and has
been the closest thing to "the secret of music" I
have ever encountered.

Has your teacher discussed intervals with you, and
have you learned them? I mean, really well?

Kelly
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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/19/2009 6:22 AM

John Crosley (7150) wrote:

Kelly, like you, I have been playing since I was a child (age 5), and intervals was something I really didn't learn about until I took chorus in high school. We did a chromatic vocal exercise up to the fourth. I started to apply this exercise to my instrumental studies as well. Great ear training.

So you students out there, if you haven't learned about intervals, PLEASE ask you teachers.



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/19/2009 6:32 AM

Keith Palmer (292) wrote:

What are intervals????
I would like to know more on this subject please.





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/19/2009 6:56 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Keith,

You can also think of intervals as scale degrees. In
a C scale, for instance, the C would be the one, the
D the two, the E the three, and so on. And then
there would be the Db, and so on, as well. The trick
is learning to hear these, and is is not a very big
trick.

Kelly





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/20/2009 5:12 AM

Keith Palmer (292) wrote:

Kelly thankyou, I was thinking of it a real big thing if you know what I mean!!!
So if I was playing...say in 'c' and I here four would that be 'F#'





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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/20/2009 9:46 AM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

The short answer is NO.

C , C# , D, D# , E , F , F# , G, G# , A, A# , B

C=1
D=2
E=3
F=4
G=5
A=6
B=7



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/19/2009 7:12 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

John,

When reading choral music, any really good teacher
will realize you need to be able to hear
intervals, because you can't just press keys on
people and make them sing the right notes.

Intervals are the most important things when it
comes to singing harmony.

However, in order to sing in chorus, or choir, you
only need to be close. In most cases, you don't
really need to know the difference between a
fourth and a fifth, you just need to know what
fits.

I agree that being in chorus can start to grow
ears on you, but, in most cases, I think that is
just a beginning.

Not to put you down, but been there, done that. :)

Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/21/2009 3:33 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

John, sorry, in re-reading my response, I realized
that it didn't come out quite the way I meant.

Certainly a knowledge of intervals is very important
in reading choral music. In fact, that's about the
only way most people can read choral music, and
actually sing what is printed on the page.

Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/21/2009 6:43 AM

John Crosley (7150) wrote:

No problem Kelly . My point was taking that interval exercise and applying it to an instrument to learn what to actually listen for.

e.g. - The exercise was singing- root - minor second (half step)- root - major second (whole step)- root - minor third - root - major third - root - perfect fourth.
Apply this to the bass in the key of A it would be A - Bb - A - B - A - C - A - C# - A - D.

I never understood why we didn't go beyond the fourth, but I continued on the instrument with diminished fifth D# - perfect fifth E - augmented fifth F - sixth F# - dominant seventh G - major seventh G# - octave A. Going back to the root every time.

Do that in all twelve keys. Great ear training.

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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/19/2009 9:34 AM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

"Happy Birthday"




.........
Here we have a song most everyone should know.

On note (3)three
...hap-py-birth...
"birth" would be an
example of a "2nd".

Continuing on ...
...hap-py-birth-day-to-you...

"to" would be a "4th"
FROM OUR STARTING NOTE!
and "you" is a "3rd",
but a {MAJOR 3rd} as
opposed to a "minor 3rd".

SEE CHART BELOW
@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@@@#@##@#@###@

Semitones Interval
-----------------------
0 ... Unison
1 ... flat 2nd
2 ... 2nd
3 ... minor 3rd
4 ... major 3rd
5 ... perfect 4th
6 ... flat 5th (diminished 5th or augmented 4th)
7 ... perfect 5th
8 ... minor 6th (or sharp 5th/augmented 5th)
9 ... major 6th
10 .. minor 7th (flat 7th)
11 .. major 7th
12 .. octave
13 .. flat 9th
14 .. 9th
15 .. sharp 9th/minor 10th (just minor 3rd one octave higher)
16 .. major 10th (just major 3rd one octave higher)
17 .. 11th
18 .. augmented 11th
19 .. perfect 12th (octave above perfect 5th)
20 .. flat 13th
21 .. 13th
@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@@@#@##@#@###@

Good topic.

Thanks Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/21/2009 4:10 AM

Kelly Marsh (11415) wrote:

Hey Wayne,

Good post. But, to be a little more clear, I might
have listed it with fractions, and started with
the numeral one.

1 ... Unison
1 ... flat 2nd (or minor 2nd)
2 ... 2nd
2 ... minor 3rd
3 ... major 3rd
4 ... perfect 4th
4 ... flat 5th (diminished 5th or augmented 4th)
5 ... perfect 5th
5 ... minor 6th (or sharp 5th/augmented 5th)
6 ... major 6th
6 .. minor 7th (flat 7th)
7 .. major 7th
8 .. octave
8 .. flat 9th
9 .. 9th
9 .. sharp 9th/minor 10th (just minor 3rd one
octave higher)
10 .. major 10th (just major 3rd one octave
higher)
11 .. 11th... and so on.

No half-steps between the 3 and the 4, and 7 and
8, because, well, there aren't any. :)

A minor quibble, I know, but, I think, easier to
visualize, for me, anyway.

Good call on naming the intervals, though.

Kelly



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Re: Do you know your intervals?

12/21/2009 2:08 PM

WAYNE ELLIOTT (21617) wrote:

Hi Kelly

I'm sure you're aware of this line from the movie
PHILADELPHIA,:

"Explain this like I'm a six year old!"

That was the approach I took here.

Much like the child will first learn to count,
then learn addition, and then multiplication.

I see your quibble, and raise a quibble ! lol

I would have preferred this:

1 ... Unison
b2 ... flat 2nd (or minor 2nd)
2 ... 2nd
b3 ... minor 3rd
3 ... major 3rd
4 ... perfect 4th
b5 ... flat 5th (diminished 5th or augmented 4th)
5 ... perfect 5th
b6 ... minor 6th (or sharp 5th/augmented 5th)
6 ... major 6th
b7 .. minor 7th (flat 7th)
7 .. major 7th
8 .. octave
______________________
Hard Days Night:

It's - been - a ...
Up a flat 2
down a flat 2

Hey Jude:

Hey - Jude ...
minor 3rd down

don't - make ...
minor 3rd up
_________________________
Anyway, I would encourage the reader to find
musical references to his or her liking that
may or may not have anything to do with the
BEATLES.


Wayne

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