Yo Roger,
Yeah, now that is what I'm taking about!! She knows what keeps her Man HAPPY!! Oh, what a Lucky guy you are!! :^D
Black Hawk

Thanks Cliff....more on that bass to come. She's convinced me to give it a new paint job...

I would have a much different recation to this. I would hand her the $300 and tell her to stay the Hell out of my business! Don't let her get money into your music gear!!! Your birthday is too damn far away, it's not a gift. You know first hand just how thin the line is between love and hate. When love turns to hate she can stake a claim to your gear. Music is a business! YOU DON'T LET YOUR WOMAN IN YOUR BUSINESS! I can't count how many times I had to tell my last girlfriend "Don't ask me about my business"... Nosey B----! Now if she buys you a piece of gear that's fine. But, NEVER let her pay for or towards a piece of gear!!!!!!!

Don't get mad at me Rog... I have your best interest at heart!

Dave

Have you been eating red meat. LOL

Leroy

Yes.... I eat it raw!

: )

Dave

Cool

:-D

I heard you eat it so raw the animal still has a heart beat. ;^D

Hazz

Mmmmm - that's how I like my steaks, still going Mooooooo!

You know to the untrained eye this would seem a bitter,negative, and biased opinion.BUT to those of us who have been there,(yes there IS a there) this is a great piece off knowledge. However,you may not want to be so harsh in informing her about it. Hey, it's a nice gesture and all but she will not stop there.....let her do that and the next thing you know she'll be telling you when and when you can't play,what song she wants to here,and being a general PITA to the other guys in the band.Unless its very serious and you think its going somewhere don't let her get her foot in the door when it comes to music....it's the groupie syndrome ! We love you Roger!!!

She'll start choosing his clothes too (smirk)
She may even tell him that he don't like playing bass no more .................. n He'll believe her too...........(LOL)

Leroy

Leroy....I'm covered in tattoos....about 60% of my upper body....clothes ain't gonna make much of a difference.

LOL!!! It's a good thing Roger is who he is otherwise he'd be hating us all!!

Hmmmmm!!! food for thought..........

I like Roger...........

Oooooh!!! a shiney thing .... gotta go.

Leroy

Man, I don't know what to think. A great gift or the beginning of a big manipulation? Yikes!

Everyone is overreacting...I have 2 expensive basses...this is a cheap backup....come on people!! lol

Dave, really, she's a nice girl.

"Oh! So am I just a cheap backup too?!?"

;)

lol...Dave you cracked me up.

I tell you though...I should have never started this post. I totally understand where everyone is coming....life's just full of chance.

Don't sweat starting the post, man!!

After the conversation banging off the guardrails for a bit, folk get into the reasons why they feel for or against "X" & then it's a good interchange of ideas & perspectives.

Hey, I'm open to discussing it, but I certainly don't want to come under fire.....(runs under table)

It's nice to see the folks on AB actually giving me some of their opinions though....good & bad. Keeps me on my toes!!

Take Care Dave

Heck, there've been worse arguements in here over Fender.

This is a bassists site: the "B" word here is Behringer.

.......FENDER RULES!!!!!!

Roger, Roger, Roger . . .

Fedner's only going to break your heart & starch your underwear.

excuse ME Mr. Ibanez! lol

C'mon now! I've been very nice lately about the F word!

My fav is still "the difference between Js & Ps is that Js burn hotter while Ps burn longer".

lmao!!

Now dave....I personally enjoy playing some of the Ibanez basses I've had...and really wish I had enough money to have about 6 basses. If such were the case I'd likely have one of the new ATKs' with the added single coil pickups. Do you really have that much disdain for Fender basses? If so, why?

Well, at this point it's partly reflex & partly rooting for the underdog. Plus I'm mostly into 5ers & not that into very wide necks.

I think my biggest thing about Fender is what you pay for the name might be better spent on paying for product. And the various levels of product: always interesting to hear someone with a Fender (turns out it's a Squier) dis a mid-level Ibanez bass.

Yeah....some people get caught up with specific brands I suppose. I've played them all, and I suppose I go by feel and sound. I just like fenders and Stingrays best. Fenders tend to produce a tone that fits in the mix a little better, but I'm intrigued by Mm's new Big Al bass with the 3 single coils...I'm hoping the local music stores get one so I can give it a try.

Yep!... there's just no bass I've heard, or recorded to date that fits in a mix like a Fender P! It's the Holy Grail!

Dave

I'm with you. I love my Fender P.

So True!! Gotta love 'em

ya know dave i like the sound of a jazz...but i never ever liked the sound of the P bass....but t each his own....

I uderstand that. I also understand that there are better sounding basses out there to many people. But, brother I'm telling you when you are mixing those things dial right in like no other!

Dave

And then you have my SX, which looks like a Fender and sounds better for a quarter of the $$$.

:)

My SX was a sweet bass for $140. After giving it a new bridge and pickups, it played like a dream....shoulda kept it!! ugh

I'm going to put a Gotoh bridge on it next time I change strings (should be awhile yet.) Haven't decided on the pickups, I kind of like the sound the way it is...what pickups did you go with?

Is it a P bass or Jazz?

Mine was a Jazz bass, and I happened to go with Active EMG's that came with pole peices for the vintage look.

If it's a P bass, I've always liked the SD quarter pounders. I just put one in my Aria, but haven't played it too much....it was BBQ and movie time, by the time I finished assembling it. But having used it a couple of times before, I can't complain.

If you love mids, without the thumpy p bass sound, you could always try the Dimarzio will power middle. I swear it reminded me of a cross between a p bass and rickenbacker when the highs were at full blast.

Mine's a J. I've considered EMG. Most basses I've played with EMG's seem to sound like the pickups instead of the wood, but it's still a very good sound. I don't know what I'll end up doing, but I'm not in a hurry to drop the money on anything. lol

My favorite passive Jazz bass pickups are Dimarzio Model J's....unfortunately, I believe that they have discontinued them and replaced them with the Aero J's....similar sound, but they did away with the adjustable pole peices.

I remember looking at both EMG and Dimarzio as my top picks...everyone I play it for drools over the sound as it is though. All it could really use is a little tighter low end.

Can you tell who the guys are that have had a rough time with the opposite sex? lol

And what's THAT supposed to mean?!?!?

;)

LMAO !!! Lets reword that and call it a difficult time !

Fine!!

;)

Oh, I know I've had my share of trouble....the thing we have to remember...Dave (Our King) included, is that we're not totally innocent either.

Speak for yourself! I may not be perfect but I am innocent!

I'll share blame in almost all my failed relationships. Some I'll even take most of the blame. But, not my last one! I have never tried so hard in my life to make one work. There was just nothing more I could have done. If I would have quit the band and worshipped the ground she walked on it still wouldn't have been enough.

Dave

Yeah, I believe you told me about that one...I understand where you're comin' from.

Thats true...I have not always done the right things,of course with some women, who the hell knows what that even is .

Some of 'em believe that "worshipping the ground they walk on" is the right thing!! lol

LMAO!!! How true is that !

Ironically they are also the guys who haven't surrendered their balls!

: )

Dave

Hi Rick!

Nah....she could care less...it's my hobby, and she doesn't really care for much of what I like. She's already said that unless any of our friends go, she'd stay home. She does artwork, and paints, so she understands the need for one to have a hobby. She's always dated clean cut guys who made way more then I ever have, and she took a chance on a broke, tattoo'd ex-autoworker(starting over), with student loans. She's going out with me because she appreciates the fact that I treat her well, so she just wanted to get me something nice.

Cool ! She DOES sound like a keeper..most important thing you can do is make them feel like a queen. Sounds like you got a good thing going Roger!

I'm glad I married a musician....

Yeah...me too! :o)

Calm down Dave!! lol

I know what you mean, but, she's not the type....she's actually been the one who's been trampled on by the male equivalent of the evil women you are concerned about....seriously.

I can see both sides.

I'm in the midst of a breakup & know that had she done something like that last year I'd be hearing about it. Daily at least. That it was a GIFT can get forgotten, or turned against you.

But if it wasn't that she was on about, it'd be something else. Et cetera.

So just enjoy the gift.

It's a gift that was on my card....she sent in my payment to MY credit card.....therefore, I'm the one that technically purchased it because MY name is on the receipt(from the day of purchase). :)


Sorry things aren't going well with yours Dave.

I was more talking about "guilt points".

Thanks Rog. Some days are sunny, some days have rain. A bit of rain in that aspect of my life right now. But other areas are sunny, plus a few I've made sunny.

Very glad things go well in your love life!!! All cynicism aside. (Which is maybe where I should leave it.)

Dave, I feel for you. I've been divorced twice, so I've certainly been where you are. You find your close friends, and family, and lean on them a little. Things will always get better.

Sorry to hear this Dave. But, I have three positive points for you:

1. They ALL have vaginas
2. The world is POLUTED with these creatures!
3. There will be another one along shortly!

If it was me, and I loved her I would send her this:

Steel Panther Community Property

I don't have speakers so I hope that's the song!

: )

Dave

Thanks, bro!! Gonna be LOTS at our Jazz Festival starting Friday.

A question: I'm 48 & figure dating someone half my age isn't proper. But is dating TWO that are half my age fine?

Davis, if you were 28 dating someone half your age would be improper, at 48 it's simply delusional to think it will happen but certainly not improper.

Dating two half your age would elevate you to a god-like status! LOL

David - jeez I can't type........

It would 'elevate' me to something!!

LOL! Sure if you can tolerate them! I like women in their 30's myself.

I'd make up your mind right now that you are going to ask a woman out at this Jazz Festival. Sometimes you get bucked, but you just gotta get up, dust yourself off and jump back on another whore horse and ride again!

: )

Dave

LMAO!! "Well, frig you AND the whorse you rode in on!!"

I hereby accept the advice, & will do so!! It's going to be a busy event for me, but there'll be some time in there somewhere. (I feel shy already!!)

30's is cool, but can be prone to 'nesting syndrome': nothing wrong with that, but it ain't me nor for me.

LMAO!!!

I understand the shy thing completely. As hard as this is going to be to believe at one point in my life I was painfully shy! Only someone who is shy can know how it feels. Luckily for me some women find this trait endearing. Otherwise I may be in an internet argument right now about just how close the Enterprise could get to the sun before the shields gave out with Captain Kirk in charge.

It's easy to sit in the dugout and watch a guy strike out and say "That's why I don't get up to bat". It's embarrassing, frustrating, and even humiliating. But, what of the hero who knocks it out of the park? Think he's never struck out? I know that you know these things but sometimes we just need reminded of them. Sometimes we just need a little push to say "swing the bat". If you get a pitch in the strike zone swing at it! It's better to go down swinging than to let one pass you by! It's like anything it takes practice. The more you practice the better you get. But you get no where if you never step up to the plate.

You are a musician you already have an edge. USE IT! Women love musicians! There are women out there for the brooding moody artistic type to the spandex makeup wearing glam boy. Don't feel you have to live up to their expectations. Let them know that they have to live up to yours! Women love confidence, be confident, not cocky! Turn the tables and make HER have game. It doesn't all fall on you. Always remember, the more beautiful a women is on the outside the uglier she is on the inside. Don't be intimidated by beauty they are horrible people. Whereas you are a good man, with a good heart, and hold a greater degree of intellect. Why would such a beast intimidate you?

Swing the bat Dave! Just swing the freeking bat!

Dave

Thanks Dave!!!

Hitting the playing field tonight & tomorrow night. A couple JazzFest Meet&Greets I have to attend (I've been told it's non-optional for Coordinators. Loudly & often.)

Soo, a good chance to sense who's interested. . .

Is your intent to kill me?!?! Sure seems that way....LOL!

Roger I'm on my knees typing this! Please open your eyes! I'm begging you!!!! Gifts or kind gestures do not come with strings attached. Let's review some facts:

Fact #1: You are a freeking idiot when it comes to women! I know this because I am your King..... the King of idiots when it comes to women.

Fact #2: To you basses are like black market prostitutes. Sure you enjoy them while you have them but you sell them off to the highest bidder. You hold no sentimental value like some of us do.

Fact #3: This woman already knows fact #2 about your personality.

Fact #4: Now you own a bass that you can't sell! Furthermore she has tried to attach a sentimental value to it and even named it!

Fact #5: See fact #1!

Fact #6: ALL women have been trampled on by the male equivalent of the evil woman! Always remember there are three sides to every story. You are hearing one side! A very BIASED side if you are lucky!!!!

Fact #7: You want to be in a relationship.

Fact#8: You name a damn bar near your home and a time you would like to meet after 7:30 p.m. this week on any day but Tuesday and I'll be there! I'M BUYING!

Take nothing more from this woman other than sex! It's just going to come back and bite you in the ass! Again... gifts are given WITHOUT condition! You will hear about this so called gift in the future, I PROMISE YOU THAT!!! This woman is playing you like a damn fiddle!

Call the ball! When and where?

Dave

LMAO
Wisdom according to Dave Magaro
The scary thing is it ALL makes PERFECT sense to
mine brain
....maybe it's the rum
;)

nawwww....i think it's just truths

Peace Eddie

I see an intervention in Roger's future!....LOL!

: )

Dave

Dave...Come On Man....I mean King?? lol

This is what I told Doug:
lol...Doug....I'm taking things reallllly slow. My job, and getting through the next year and 3 months (gov't trial period), then I'll think about it.

I understand everything you've written, and I've done that sex only thing with a few girls during the past couple of years....being very withdrawn, and with my walls up high. My girl is sweet....there are some of them out there you know. I'm taking things very slowly.....so relax.

As far as the bass....she's already asked me if I was selling it to get on of the new Carvins in the Carvin catalog I have on the coffee table. I've showed her the WORD doc. I have with the 50+ basses I've owned....she's totally fine with my "bass guitar decisions". I actually like the bass.....and had no intentions of her paying a dime towards it....her sending the payment was a nice gesture on her behalf. I've actually decided to paint it-in case you want to know. Check the equip forum in a few minutes.

Later.

Subject: Roger

LMAO! Good! I feel much better now! I'm just trying to make sure you don't go heart first and end up a-- over elbows later. That's what friends do Roger.

Dave

Thanks again Dave!! :)

i could give my opinion on this post but after the events of the last week i know more about trees than woman!!!!

My singer's current girlfriend (the previous one
is the mother of his child) gave him for his
birthday a full set of drums. We (the band) are
lucky she did, as our drummer has not been coming
to practise lately, and has disappeared from the
world (yesterday I got second hand information
about him from a fellow bass player). So our
singer sings (which he does very well) and plays
drums (he only keeps the tempo if he is singing,
which luckily is in all songs).

Even 'worse', she comes to band practise every
friday and is now singing chorus. Which is good
for us too, our singer can do it very well in
Judas Priest's normal songs, for example, but he
doesn't reach the highest octaves that the Metal
God did. So she does that part. She still hasn't
been 'officially' accepted in the band. If she is,
she'll pay her part of the practice room rental.

So for now, in this case, good for us. I do see
some possible problems in the future, but hey, we
have a drummer problem (we are in the point of
thinking about searching for a new one) to solve
first, so ...

Sounds like you are heading down the road of bigger problems my friend. But, I wish you the best and hope that things work out for you. I mean that sincerley!

Dave

....Even 'worse', she comes to band practise every friday and is now singing chorus....
Why does Yoko Ono spring up in my mind I wonder......

Oh no!!! YIKES!!!!

Uh oh!!

What I'm used to is the band decides on the need for a new member, & then on the new member.

Off the cuff, I can think of more reasons this is a bad idea than I have basses.

Biggest:
* What happens if they break up?
* What happens with gig pay?
* Who helps cary the subwoofers & wrap the cables?

Let me tell you tale ..........

Some 12 or 13 years ago my father re-married after my mother died and his new wife picked an atrocious band to play at their reception.

Fast forward to their 10th anniversary party and they hired the same band and you know what.....they were worse!

Why you may ask.......because one of the band members had married & his wife became one of the vocalists. I can still hear the echoes of the coyotes howling when she sang.........

Moral of the story, spouses & girlfriends/boyfriends are NOT band members; beer fetchers certainly, roadies maybe but not band members.

That's cool Bruce.

I've seen some singers who can sing. Perhaps you guys can invest in a wireless headset-mic for him to use.

The drummer in our old band used to do about 75% of our backups....harmonies too!!

Hey Roger,
What kind of headphones do you use when you practice?

Sennheiser HD 202

Great headpnones, with good bass sound for about $60-70!!