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My Appraisal of My Rickenbacker 4003.

Steve Fox (12512)

Bass Equipment Forum · 6/11/2005 12:20 PM
I'm not going to do a proper review, I'm doing it here for all to see and read.
I'm Terribly dissapointed in this Bass. I've owned it a little over six months now and have given myself the time to really get to know it before I comment on it.
Firstly let me begin with the sound. This Ric sounds nearly as good as a classic Ric should, but not quite. It lacks the growl of a old Ric and is a little Bland, good, but not Great. Also, there are dead spots in atleast four places on the neck, and also one or two wolf note areas that ring out far louder than most of the rest of the neck. Volume across the strings is also pretty dreadful, I've set the pick-ups up as best as is possible and the treble is still louder than the bass which in turn is causing me to learn bad habits in my playing to compensate.
Back to the neck, its got buzz on the 12 through 15 frets on the D & G strings, now I've spents literally months setting and fine tuning the neck but I've come to the conclusion(as has my luthier friend) that the neck is very slightly warped and the probelm is NOT the frets.

Now to the build quility, OH MY GOD!!! for the money i spent on this thing it should be TEN times better built.
Let me begin at the headstock. Tuners, Standard but thinner metal than I'm used to on other basses, these are just the way they are though ofr this particular make.
The Nut, CRAP!!!!! I fioled and modded it the minute I gopt home cos it was cut too high, and its made from poo, why this material??!!
Hand rest thing, pulled it off to discover that its now made of PLASTIC, this used to be made of plated TIN.
Bridge, once again OH MY GOD! what rubbish, crap flaky chrome, doesnt intonate properly and also VERY difficult to intonate cos of the design and get this, becasue I have the saddles set as far back as they can go to get the intonation as close as possible, the whole bridge now falls over backwards in the housing, Man, RICKENBACKER really needs to sort its sh!t out!! I'm vERY dissapointed.
Steve
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6/11/2005 12:26 PM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

That's too bad. I hate being disappointed by a reputable company making crap. I always thought Ric would be above board and uncompromising. Guess I as wrong. Sorry to hear about it.

Bo



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6/11/2005 12:44 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

Hey Bo.
Yeah, thought the same, guess I've was a little niave or something, I really thoght I was getting the Holy Grail of basses here, what a heap 'o shyte!
Steve



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6/11/2005 12:51 PM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

Same thing with my Spector. I couldn't afford an American or European made model, so I opted for Korean. I thought, "it's still a Spector", right....? Wrong!!!

My brand new Spector has the right feel, tone, and look, but the electonics are shot and it's in storage waiting to be fixed. Spector won't honor the warranty.

Bo



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6/11/2005 12:58 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

That really sucks.

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6/11/2005 12:35 PM

Liam Ca (12164) wrote:

One word:- complain. Complain your a-- off to Rickenbacker, and you'll get compensation of some kind. No way should you be spending that kind of money on something so badly built.




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6/11/2005 12:40 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

I should really but I've heard that they are right bunch of wankers, mebbe I'll go to the shop where I bought it and b---- and moan there.
Steve





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6/11/2005 12:44 PM

Liam Ca (12164) wrote:

Ultimately I think you should do both...I mean, s---, they can charge you that amount of money for a Bass that ain't even worth half that amount? That's the kind of impression I'm getting from your original post anyway, correct me if I'm wrong. The company might not be willing, but you should definately give them some grief over it, as well as the shop who sold it to you. Anyways, good luck with whatever you do man.

Liam :)







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6/11/2005 12:48 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

Cheers dude.
In reality I'd put a value of about 500.oo on this bass, about the same quility as a MIM Jazzer so your impression was correct.
I think I might take it to the shop and see if I can trade it for a MM Stingray that I was contemplating at the same time as the RIC, atleast with one of them you know exactly what you are getting, a Bloody decent guitar!! I'll probably lose atleast 500 quid in the process though if I do, maybe eBay would be a better bet to get rid of it.
Steve







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6/11/2005 12:51 PM

Liam Ca (12164) wrote:

Well you can't go wrong with a Stingray, that's for sure. The idea of a Ric always appealed to me, but this post has put me way off, so cheers ;)

Liam :)







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6/11/2005 12:59 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

No worries.
Unless you can get one for a good price dont bother, I know of one going for 750.00....LMAO!!! I wouldnt do that to you buddy.
Steve





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6/11/2005 3:38 PM

Alex Newbury (5756) wrote:

I think that if you complain and
mention all the things you have mentioned in
this post, it'll show that you actually know what
you are talking about and not some guy who
bought it and changed his mind. Maybe try and
find someone in the shop who knows Rik's,
and can verify your thoughts.

Good luck

alex :)



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6/11/2005 12:47 PM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

I agree Liam. He should raise a fuss over this. The only problem I see is that they'll say "it's not a warranty issue", or some other convenient excuse that suits them. While the seller probably had a 30 day mone back guarantee, I don't think that's enough time. I think the manufactures should offer more than 30 day guarantees on instruments as well. I don't think 30 days is enough time to spend with an instrument to see every aspect of it.

Remember my new Spector? After the 30 days expired the electronics took a crap. That thing is still in storage with its new Bart pre-amp waiting for me to get the money to have it fixed. I am disappointed and I know how Steve feels to a degree.

A 60 day period would be more in order, but I suppose they are afraid to do that with the garbage that is being built these days.

Funny thing is, my supposedly cheap Samick (which most people hate) didn't have a single issue for 10 years. Thank God I have that bass and my T-40 to fall back on.

Nice to see you by the way. It's been a while.

Bo



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6/11/2005 12:51 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

Yeah, they should do something like that. You get a one year warranty on it but like you say, technically its not a warranty issue. I'm so p---ed that if I sell it now to mnake a bit of money back that I spent I'm gonna have to "avoid" telling the future owner about its drawbacks. If I trade it in i'll lose hundreds that I cant afford, bit of a poo situation.
Steve





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6/11/2005 12:56 PM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

Not a good situation to be in for sure. Did you get a chance to try it out first or just order it and have it shipped? The reason I ask is because if you tried it at a store, what sold you on it and do you think a store tryout is suffice to making an informed decision?

Why not a 3-day take home trial? I wish they would let buyers do that as well.

Bo





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6/11/2005 1:11 PM

Steve Fox (12512) wrote:

Well, I tried one in a shop, infact I tried several aswell as a couple of Stingrays. I made my final desicion and a month later went to the store to buy it(the actual one I ended up liking) The store didnt have that particular one but they could get me one in a few days, I thought wel thats ok cos how different could they be.
Anyway, they ring me and I go back to the store, play it for a half hour or so and it feels GOOD(they really do have great feeling necks) through a small Peavey amp(100watts). It need its truss adjusted in the store but I know that that is pretty common anyway so I was not worried.

I agree that shops shoulg give like 3 or 4 days money back periods or something, how can you possibly know in half an hour of playing a expensive thing like that if its really gonna suit you in the long run or whatever.

Oh, I'm just gonna put it up oin Ebay and hope I get a good amount back then buy a decent Stngray as I should have done in the first place.

Steve





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6/11/2005 3:31 PM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

It sounds like they may have slipped something else in under the radar. If the one you played originally was gone and you got a stinker in it's place, that is a bigger issue. I would probably think twice about doing business there in the future.

I haven't played a Ric in a long time, but I remember how good it felt. I certainly hope things work out for you, Steve.

Bo



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6/12/2005 12:41 AM

Maurice Carr (37802) wrote:

Did that Spector come with a Bart pre-amp?

My BTB has a bart pre-amp that's causing me ulcers!

Maybe Bart custom mades for the mass producer OEMs market aren't all that great!

If the replacement bart doesn't work, a Demeter is going in.

Mo



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6/12/2005 12:47 AM

WILLIAM HULSEY (25119) wrote:

No, my Bart system is aftermarket. The original pre was EMG I think. The problem was more than likely a production faux pau at the factory. It was probably built on Friday!

Bo



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6/12/2005 1:49 AM

Maurice Carr (37802) wrote:

OK, I think the Bart aftermarket pre-amp stuff is good but I suspect the OEM stuff for the likes of Ibanez etc may be border-line - perhaps I've got a Monday pre-amp.

Also I think the 18v systme is probably way too powerful for most rigs and casues distortion - on my bass this happens when I pluck hard. The other BTB does not distort when plucked hard and it has the Korean Ibanez pick-ups which you would think would distort before the barts!

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!

I'll get to the bottom of it soon though.

Mo

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