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its too hard :(

Rich Coombs (1847)

Bass Open Forum · 10/26/2004 11:52 AM
hey guys...what a bummer... i've been having a bit of trouble in my band lately, we have potential, we're not bad, but we're having a lot of trouble writing new songs... the singer has a book full of lyrics but we just dont know how to put them in a song. we've made only one song (and a few rubish ones)but now we're stuck! and we dont just wanna do covers! how do you write your songs?
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10/26/2004 11:59 AM

Ivan Thuringer (41014) wrote:

I find it easier to put lyrics to music rather than putting music to lyrics. I have done it both ways, but the lyrics must conform to the music and not the other way around (there is some musical flexibility, but not nearly as much as the flexibility of language). If I have lyrics that need to have music, I think about the tempo, style, & flavor that would be appropriate for the topic.



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10/26/2004 12:01 PM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

Same here Ivan, music first, lyrics later :P

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10/26/2004 12:30 PM

Liam Ca (12164) wrote:

My band does quite a bit of covers, but we do play a song I wrote, and that just came to me while I was in the shower. Seriously, next time you're in the shower, have a good think about some cool riffs, grooves etc. you want to develop.

Liam :)



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10/26/2004 2:33 PM

Rich Coombs (1847) wrote:

heh heh, lol, i will definatly try it, thanks liam!

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10/26/2004 12:58 PM

Dirk Blarinckx (624) wrote:

I can only agree,
In my former bad we always first found the music, the melody
and afterwards we wrote the lyrics. I found out that you don't
have to force it! Most of the times it just comes...

Dirk

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10/26/2004 1:23 PM

Jeff Renaud (4615) wrote:

I was in that very situation a number of times and I must admit that the majority of the time, it was because of a lack of humility, not a lack of musical ability. You shouldn't label songs as rusbish unless you really invest yourself in it. Sure it may sound goofy now, but a lot of times, these attempts are only the skeleton of things to come.

Also, doing covers, even if you don't play them before an audience, is the biggest thing a budding band can do in order to boost their confidence and learn to play off each other (thus easing tenfold the process of song writing). Don't look at the song you cover as something cast in stone, see it as a way to voice YOUR take on it and to explore new territory. Decorticate the bassline, the hooks, the drums, the chords, the lyrics: why was it written that way? what does it bring? would there be a better way to play this song?

Remember, you don't have to reinvent the wheel everytime you write something, you say something, that could have been said 10,000 times before (or even 10,000 times better), but you do it in your own voice.



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10/26/2004 2:39 PM

Rich Coombs (1847) wrote:

thanks jeff that sounds like great advice, i recon your right, i'll keep workin, and today we got a list of covers to do so i'm gunna learn them now :)



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10/26/2004 9:37 PM

Jeff Renaud (4615) wrote:

Blues and standards are also good if you're into that sort of thing.

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10/26/2004 3:08 PM

Mike Holley (4914) wrote:

I write everything for my band, it makes it a lot easier to develop ideas into what they're intended to be when it comes form one sourece.

I will agree with Ivan though. I find it easier to change lyrics around a little to fit the music than the other way around.

Good luck!



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10/26/2004 6:13 PM

Rich Coombs (1847) wrote:

thanks!



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10/30/2004 4:35 AM

Michael Barlet (1379) wrote:

hey, no disrespect to Mike there, but from my experiences "the Band" will come up with a much better song than just one guy. Thats why your in a band in the first place, right? To MAKE and play music with a few other guys? Mike's own style of wong writing may work well for him in his situation, but figure this. If one person writes a song, you are only getting one person's persective of it. But when you all come together to write, your guitarist or even your drummer may suggest something completely awesome that you may have never thought of in a million years. Just a thought. Keep up the hard work, it pays off.

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