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E string Rattle!

NOOOOOO! my E string has started to rattle. If i pluck it relatively hard with my finger (open e string), it makes a nasty rattling sound. It doesnt happen on any of the other strings, and the sound doesnt come through the amp, but i can hear it and its really annoying!

does anyone know what is causing it????

p.s. with a truss rod, how do you know which way to turn it to adjust the neck???
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Re: E string Rattle!

2/9/2004 7:32 PM

Matt Smith (1297) wrote:

Stuart,

My low E was rattling a while back on my Fender Jazz. I thought it was my truss rod too (oh no!), but it actually turned out to be the string vibrating in the nut. When I put my new strings on, the end of the E was sitting high in the capstan, causing it to rattle. I just rewound the string so that it sat lower on the capstan (and therefore tighter in the nut) and voila! No more rattling! It also might be a loose washer/screw on your tuning pegs. Also check your bridge and your control knobs/input jack. I hope it's not your truss rod dude. Chances are it isn't (but if it is, I'd take it to a luthier/tech). Which way you turn the truss rod to tighten it depends on the guitar (I still get confused about it)... check your manufacturer's website/support line. Good luck man!

Matt Smith



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2/10/2004 11:38 AM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

OH great advice man thanks! i thought it may have been the string in the nut because it doesnt look right and thats where the rattling is coming from!

cheers! ill restring the E right away :)

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2/10/2004 3:08 PM

Guy DeRome (757) wrote:

Yes, as Mark says, the break angle over the nut must be sharp enough or the string will rattle.

I have also noticed on one of my basses that sometimes two of the separate string saddles barely touch each other. Certain notes cause them to rattle. Just pushing them apart a bit solves the problem.

About the truss rod: it is pretty standard that Clockwise equals tighten, and Counter-clockwise equals loosen. This is true no matter which end of the neck your adjustment is at. One note, if you are not used to adjusting it. Loosen it a bit then adjust no more than a 1/4 turn. If you are tightening it, loosen the strings a bit first. Make the truss rod adjustment, then retune the strings to pitch, then let the bass sit for a while (some say overnight) before adjusting it any more.

Guy



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2/10/2004 3:19 PM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

would it be bad if i did turn it more than 1/4 and how would it affect the bass?



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2/10/2004 3:31 PM

John Lundgren (9107) wrote:

do it a 1/4 turn at most and try it, but dont adjust more than a 1/2 turn a day. It takes some time for the wood to settle in.



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2/10/2004 3:34 PM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

and um...say you adjusted it more than that...is it bad?



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2/10/2004 3:46 PM

John Aramini (1737) wrote:

I've adjusted it more than that plenty of times. Well, a couple times on my guitar and a couple times on my bass. I don't know if it was really bad for my bass or guitar or not, but nothing bad happened to either. I think it's just a caution thing, you don't want to be doing it a ton just to be careful, but most likely horrible things won't happen. I guess they may and I've just been lucky, but I haven't had problems going more than that. It usually hasn't taken more than maybe a full turn. I generally would go for about 1/4 turn to a 1/2 turn and let it sit for around half an hour and then check it out and that was sufficient time for me to see if the adjustment had taken place.



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Re: E string Rattle!

2/10/2004 3:55 PM

John Lundgren (9107) wrote:

Somehow i think there is a reason for that question Stuart, right?
It probably did'nt happen too much, but I think the best thing would be to loosen it a bit again and wait til tomorrow for further adjustments



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Re: E string Rattle!

2/10/2004 3:58 PM

John Lundgren (9107) wrote:

Oh and how much relief do you have in the neck now? press down at the 1st fret and put your right elbow on the string at the last fret, now check how much you can move the string up and down at top of the 8th fret.





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2/11/2004 11:44 AM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

huh!!!?!?!?! what with my elbow moving the string?





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2/11/2004 11:47 AM

Stephen Smith (32237) wrote:

No, he means fret it at both ends of the fret board to check the relief (curvature) of the neck.





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2/11/2004 12:51 PM

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2/11/2004 1:30 PM

Stuart King (15281) wrote:

OH i see! yeah mine is fine :)



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Re: E string Rattle!

2/10/2004 4:16 PM

Ken Hatcher (371) wrote:

It's not great to tighten or loosen the truss rod too much. What ends up happening if you do, is you over compensate for whatever relief your neck has. Then you end up having to loosen or tighten 1/4 turn to readjust because you've gone to far. Doning that too many times (1/2 turn each time) will weaken the neck, and sometimes stip the nut that adjusts the rod. If that happens, that would be a bad day for ya

Later

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