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tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

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Bass Equipment Forum · 1/8/2002 5:15 PM
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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/8/2002 6:06 PM

Patrick Johnston (216) wrote:

2 rules I live by:

1-Always have an amp with a higher wattage output than the wattage handling rating of your speaker (some people will disagree with me, they are wrong)

2-Your speaker must have an equal or higher impedence rating (ohms) than your amp if your amp is solid state (90% of newer amps on the market).
(I would hope no one would dissagree with this).

Patrick



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/8/2002 6:26 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

thanks, makes sense. Anyone else?



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/8/2002 7:44 PM

Brian Carstensen (496) wrote:

Wouldn't having more watts coming outta your amp than
your speakers can handle make it really easy to blow the
speakers? I don't follow your logic.



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/8/2002 10:59 PM

Patrick Johnston (216) wrote:

I went into a fairly in depth explanation in a previous discussion. The gist is that most amps are at peak performance in terms of sound quality when they are between 50% and 75% of full power. you should never crank the master on an amp to "10". Also, having an excess of power will give superior transient response from speakers producing low frequencies. Your subs just wont kick otherwise. Lastly, it is actualy easier to blow a decent quality speaker by using not enough power than by using too much power.

Hope this makes sense, I reaize it sounds illogical at first.
Patrick



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/8/2002 11:03 PM

Patrick Johnston (216) wrote:

One small addition; The wattage handling on most speakers is much like the speed limit-A modest recomendation for those who don't really know what they're doing :-)





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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/9/2002 10:56 PM

ROY MESSMORE (1197) wrote:

I agree with Patrick. If there's plenty of headroom, there's far less distortion and distortion usually heats up the voice coils and causes meltdowns. Seldom is it too much power. I have never blown a speaker with a good amp...always been one of those @#%&* underpowered amps and a moderate to higher rated cabinet.



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/9/2002 12:13 AM

Dan Anderson (426) wrote:

I agree with everything you said except one thing, how can you blow a speaker by running low power through it? the disadvantage of running low power througha high-power speaker is that the sound of ten lacks bass and definition, not that your going to blow it up.



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/9/2002 12:30 AM

Brad Mock (16383) wrote:

The problem with a low wattage amp is that you will have less headroom and it will be easier to push the amp to clipping, heat and possible DC and thereby burning your speakers.



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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/9/2002 11:59 AM

Patrick Johnston (216) wrote:

That's pretty much it. I would add that most amps on the market will push DC current when clipping, and are MUCH more likely to clip, even at normal levels, when asked to push too much speaker.

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Re: tips on correctly matching amps and speakers

1/9/2002 1:41 PM

Keith Shannon (2406) wrote:

1: decide on how you want your system set up. Do you want a crossover to a woofer or do you want all the cabs getting the same signal? For a crossover, you have to have a parallel connection, so you need to make sure your amp can handle the decreased impedance. With a "normal" setup, you have the option of running parallel or in series.

2: How much wattage do you need? Not necessarily what you want. Take the wattages of the amps of anyone you will be playing with (your lead and rhythym guitarist, for example), and triple it. That's what you'll need to be heard without straining the amp or cabinets.

3: The first reply was correct: You need more amp wattage than your cabs can handle. The reason is that the wattages are the rated maximum. Running an amp at its rated max usually means you're clipping the amp. You need enough power that both the amp and cabs are comfortable, and the cabs are still putting out a lot of sound. So, if you have a 350-watt sub and a 350-watt tweeter stack, 700 watts will drive it, but 850 or even 1000 watts is best.

3: Now, you need to match impedances. If you're set up in series (read the manual to see how the amp treats connections from its various speaker-out jacks, we'll assume you're chaining cabs and the connections are in series), 2 4-ohm cabinets equal one 8-ohm circuit. In parallel, it's a little tricker. The formula for parallel impedance is 1/R(total) = 1/R(first cab) + 1/R(second cab) +...+ 1/R(last cab). so, two 8s in parallel would be 4 ohms. Two four ohm cabs would be a 2-ohm circuit, and so on. You need to make sure you set up the connections so that the amp can handle the impedance. The amp needs some resistance to the voltage it puts through the cab circuits to avoid overloading. Some examples: your amp will run at impedances as low as 4 ohms. you have a 4-ohm and a 4-ohm. The only way here is to run them in series. Now, if your amp runs at down to 2 ohms, you can put your cabs in parallel (most cabs are wired so that when you chain them together using the cab speaker out jacks on each one, they're wired in parallel. This can be changed if necessary). The lower the resistance in the circuit, the more power can go through it, which usually means more volume.

There's a primer. For info on bi-amping (using half the amp's power for one cab and the other half for another through seperate speaker outs; needed for crossover setups), just look at the owner's manual. If you can, it will tell you how.


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